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Will I Get A Late Penalty If I Sign Up For Medicare After I Turn 65 Living In WNY?
By Andrew L Hibbard @WNYMrMedicare
Originally Posted: 20 MAR 2023
Updated & Revised:
It’s important to sign up and start your Medicare benefits when turning 65 during your Initial Enrollment Period, or IEP, unless you have alternative health insurance coverage that’s considered “credible.”
How do you know if your alternative health insurance coverage is considered credible?
Here’s what Medicare states on their government website at cms.gov:
“Beginning January 2006, the Medicare Modernization Act (MMA) was passed…stating under §423.56(a) of the final regulation, coverage is creditable if the actuarial value of the coverage equals or exceeds the actuarial value of standard prescription drug coverage under Medicare Part D, as demonstrated through the use of generally accepted actuarial principles and in accordance with CMS actuarial guidelines. In general, the actuarial equivalence test measures whether the expected amount of paid claims under the entity's prescription drug coverage is at least as much as the expected amount of paid claims under the standard Part D benefit.”
What? Let me explain…
Basically, in plain, easy-to-understand English, if you (or your spouse) are still working through active employment, and you (or you spouse) is enrolled in a health insurance from that Employer which meets or exceeds what Medicare provides, you’re good. You DO NOT need to enroll at 65 and can suspend your benefits and sign up later in life without worry of paying a penalty.
But, a word of warning before you proceed to party…
Here are a few qualifying questions to ask yourself that will provide some insight, and may prevent a future penalty, giving you the smart steps you should take when wondering if you have to sign up for Medicare if you have other insurance…
(QUESTION 1)
Do you, or your spouse, work for an employer with 20 or more active employees, who is proving you (or your spouse) health insurance benefits from that job?
Answer: Contrary to popular belief, you may be able to suspend both your Medicare Part A and Part B benefits until after age 65 when you stop working and sign up at a future date without paying a late enrollment penalty. You will need to confirm your current health insurance from your employer meets the “credible coverage” requirements.
You can proactively pre-file a “preliminary proof of credible coverage” form through the WNY Medicare SmartStart Program. This gives you a second set of eyes on your situation, alleviates any assumptions you may make, and all but guarantees you will not pay a costly penalty later in life. Click HERE to schedule a free Medicare SmartStart Strategy Session to share your situation and submit your “preliminary proof of credible coverage” form.
(QUESTION 2)
Do you, or your spouse, work for an employer with 19 or less active employees, who is providing you (or your spouse) health insurance benefits from that job?
Answer: Unlike working for an Employer with 20 or more active employees, if you, or your spouse, work somewhere with 19 or less active employees, you likely need to sign up and start both Medicare Part A and Part B even if you choose to keep working, otherwise your employer based group health plan (EGHP) may not cover the costs for services you get when eligible for Medicare but not enrolled.
In this instance, if you sign up for Medicare Part A and Part B, your Medicare coverage would be considered your primary payer while your health insurance from your job would pay secondary.
If you would like to clarify the coordinate of coverage and have a casual conversation to shed some light on your situation, please feel free to schedule a complimentary, no-cost Medicare SmartStart Strategy Session HERE and we can get together and walk-through what you should expect and get you answers to any question you may have.
(QUESTION 3)
Will you, or your spouse, will keep working past age 65, and are self-employed, or have health insurance that is not available to everyone equally at your employer.
You will need to ask, (and I strongly suggest request written verification), if your health insurance is considered an employer group health plan (EGHP) as deemed acceptable by the IRS. If it is not an EGHP, you will have to sign up and start both Medicare Part A and Part B at 65 regardless of your alternative healthcare options, otherwise you will be assessed a late enrollment penalty that you’ll pay for your lifetime.
Honestly, if you are in the situation and you even have to ask, or question what you should or shouldn’t be doing, it’s likely safer…and smarter…to just sign up and start Medicare at 65 to avoid all the hassles and hurdles later in life.
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ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Andrew L Hibbard is a prominent name when mentioning Medicare in WNY, but one you may have never heard of. Working behind-the-scenes, he is a best-selling author, expert advisor and successful agency owner. Focused on educating first, Andrew prides himself on being considered “the only advocate in WNY fighting for better and more reliable Medicare resources, free from insurance company conflict of interests.”
To take away the stress of trying to tackle Medicare alone and feeling forced to figure it all out by yourself --- Andrew created the WNY Medicare SmartStart Program; a free, step-by-step plan, that holds you by the hand to sign up and start Medicare smartly. (More than 850+ people have gone through the program and call it “the lazy way to get Medicare done for you without costing you a dime”).
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You Can Feel Confident Knowing What To Do With Medicare.
I Can Take Away The Stress Of Trying To Tackle It On Your Own.
Figuring out all the fine print with Medicare doesn't need to feel stressful. You don't have to spend your scarce free time at home, alone, in isolation, relying on your own assumptions and hit-or-miss guesses, attempting to do-it-yourself.
Confidently knowing exactly what to do (and when) with Medicare is the key to avoiding future fines and fees and only my Medicare SmartStart Program will show you how.
If you don't have the time or the desire to deal with Medicare directly, and want a BETTER, SMARTER, time-saving solution to short-cut hours of your own trial and error so you know --- without question --- you aren't messing anything up making a mistake...
Let me put my proven Medicare SmartStart Program to work for you.
Click the link below to take the next step and schedule a complimentary Medicare SmartStart Strategy Session with me --- it's that easy!
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Who Is Andrew Hibbard?
Since 2015, Andrew has helped over 850+ Western New Yorkers through his nationally recognized Medicare SmartStart Program, taking away all the stress from folks trying to tackle Medicare on their own. His impressive record of success has been gotten Andrew featured in Forever Young Magazine and the BEE Group Newspapers, exclusive interviews on WECK Radio's Senior Matter's Program, and author an #1 Amazon best-selling guidebook on the subject, "Starting Medicare Smartly," revealing how the rules specifically and significantly differ for NY residents versus other states.
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